US Troops in Iraq NOT Trigger Happy After All!
Well, the Chattering Classes are whining about the SNAFU at the checkpoint in Iraq, where US troops fired upon the car carrying freed Italian hostage Giuliana Sgrena, wounding her, and killing Nicola Calipari, the 52-year-old head of SISMI's international operations department.
The usual media meatheads are using this to "prove" that the US is trigger happy. THEY have never stood guard detail at a checkpoint in an area crawling with terrorists. I have.
Now it turns out that a big part of the SNAFU was not American at all, but Italian. The Washington Times, citingthe press in Italy, reports that Italian agents likely withheld information from U.S. counterparts about a cash-for-freedom deal with gunmen holding the Italian hostage, for fear that Americans might block the trade. The decision by operatives of Italy's SISMI military intelligence service to keep the CIA in the dark about the deal for the release of reporter Giuliana Sgrena, might have "short-circuited" communications with U.S. forces controlling the road from Baghdad to the city's airport, the newspaper La Stampa said.
Meanwhile, Ms. Sgrena and her communist friends are using her release, not to express their gratitude to Allied troops, whose presence on the ground is probably the real reason she got released at all, but rather to bash the yanks. Turns out that Sgrena is a reporter for the Communist daily Il Manifesto, and charged this week that U.S. forces might have deliberately targeted her because Washington opposes Italy's policy of capitulating to extortion by kidnappers. Sgrena, whose newspaper ardently opposes Italy's deployment of 3,000 troops in Iraq as part of the U.S.-led coalition, offered no direct evidence to support the charge and toned down the suggestion in a later interview with Reuters. Other Italian media are chirping in with similar claims.
Next time a commie journalist falls hostage into Islamofascist hands, maybe the world should pay them cash to KEEP her?
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The familiar cries from the left are absurd. The soldiers are in a life and death situation and delays cost lives.
If America were targeting a journalist it would not use a check point to carry out its attack. This is another hysterical claim from the left.
Thanks for the info.
Um, Mz. Sgrena, if our military wanted you dead ... lady, you would be dead.
Is there any _creditable_ evidence to suggest this was all nothing more than a ruse by a small time reporter to enhance her readership and try to discredit the effort in Iraq? Real insurgents would have cut her head off like the rest of the captives.
I used to automatically assume US troops had good intentions in cases like this. I used to think it was absurd to think that US troops would deliberately engage in war crimes too, but that turned out to be untrue then, so I have an awful hard time giving them the benefit of the doubt now.
The US army is made up of mercenary thugs these days.
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Careful there, Laeth. You're giving yourself away. Here's a tip. If you want to be an effective opposition poster on a conservative board, it's usually wise to keep your radical leftist agenda under wraps, rather than revealing it as clearly as these words of yours have done:
"Horowitz's gestapo"
Conservative students are "white trash retards"
An unborn child is a "glob of splooge"
"The US army is made up of mercenary thugs these days."
Sorry your cover is blown, Laeth. Better luck on your next attempt.
laeth - if you are disillusioned by a couple of relatively recent news stories, you'd better avoid reading any history, especially of other countries, and I mean any other countries. Apparently, you've managed to avoid that so far.
Mercenary!? Like for lots of money? Are you aware of how much they make? Some of their families get food stamps. And "thugs"- You come to this conclusion from reading the news, or from knowing how many soldiers? And how many thugs? If you are over 20 you need to get out more.
And remember, there are 150,000 of them over there, and somewhere close to a million have cycled through there in the last couple of years. since you have judged them all by scant criterion, imagine how every city in the world under a million would fare in your court. The whole world would be "mercenary thugs."
Moi, a radical leftist? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Do you have any other sidesplitters in your pocket?
After listening to Mz. Sgrena spew her Anti American, Anti War, Anti Capitalist crap for months, the terrorists decided that she was even to radical for them, and offered to give her back, if Italy would agree to pay for pain and suffering.
Observations.....
300-400 rounds fired and only nominal damage to the car. Maybe the shots came from across the grassy knoll.
Traveling at night on the most dangerous highway in the world, and your joking about puddles.
Mz. Sgrena, Pinocchio wants his nose back.
Some of the first articles on this stated that there was a plane waiting for her..Would this not suggest that the Americans knew of her arrival? Since they do control the airport..
the GIs are too stupid too target anyone
they just fire indiscriminately
the GIs are too stupid too target anyone
they just fire indiscriminately
the GIs are too stupid too target anyone
they just fire indiscriminately
Nick, posting the same sophomoric drivel 3 times does not transform it into a rational argument. We got the point immediately after the first post. Not the point you intended, but you did reveal yourself quite clearly, even though inadvertently.
Well, I live and work in Baghdad and have crossed through that checkpoint (and so many others)more times than I can count. Using locally purchased cars and Iraqi security and drivers, we've never been fired on (a couple close calls, because our driver was driving too aggressively near the checkpoint).
I fail to see how anyone could come to a checkpoint in Baghdad and not get the message that they need to slow down (to about 5mph, not 25mph as Ms. Manifesto admitted). If the armed sentries don't provide you with a clue; if the .50-cal aimed at you from the pillbox is too well camoflaged, then the huge tank barrel pointed at your windshield should at least get your attention ("margaret" couldn't have been more right!).
They were on a special mission to retrieve the reporter, so they thought they had special privileges. They were probably in-country especially for that mission and not experienced at getting around Iraq, perhaps.
Even if they did inform the State Dept. or whoever, it doesn't take a lot of sense to know that the kid holding the weapon at the checkpoint is the one you have to be concerned with (and he may or may not have ESP or have seen the memo).
LAETH: I used to automatically assume that Stalin Clause would make the world better. But then I realized I was just a liberal, and that bad people (like suicide bombers) exist and need to be stopped. Hint: Hip music and weepy movie stars do not accomplish this.
NICK: Chanting is so 1960s.
orangeducks
Baghdad
Neither do thugs shooting journalists and abusing civilians.
Laeth, your repeated use of the word thug to describe those who risk their lives to protect your right to use the word thug is really rather ironic.
But there's probably hope for you, once reality, logic and reason invade your life. This usually happens sometime after graduation, so you may have a bit of a wait. In the meantime, just relax and enjoy dorm life.
My right to free speech is not now and never has been threatened by Iraqis, so that's a big pile of horseshit you're spewing there, buddy.
"Next time a commie journalist falls hostage into Islamofascist hands, maybe the world should pay them cash to KEEP her?"
What was that Ben Johnson was saying earlier about how the Hate-America Left has a bad case of Philo-Thanatos? ; )
J
"Nick, posting the same sophomoric drivel 3 times does not transform it into a rational argument."
It was probably server hiccups.
I noticed that Blightminded was having some record skips when proclaiming how God and his SON helped out with the American Revolution, a few entries back.
J
J. Edward, I'm sure it was as you say. Orangeducks and I were only having a go at Nick's amateurish attempt at discussion board bomb-tossing.
My best "buddy" Laeth usually posts bombs only once, thereby removing some of the fun.
I'm sure our troops overseas are able to see through the antics of Nick, Laeth and the rest of the sophomore class. It's abundantly clear that almost all Americans, no matter what their view of the war might be, support our troops and would never resort to the despicable characterizations as posted here by Nick and Laeth.
Note to Maclaurie:
We are not fighting "Iraqis", we are fighting "anti-Iraqis." Most (about 80%) of the so-called insurgents are foreigners. Most of the Iraqis we did fight were and still are, Saddams, ah, thugs. http://www.husseinandterror.com/
http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/
http://massgraves.info/
It's true your freedom of speech was never threatened by Iraqis. In fact, their freedom of speech was obviously the problem for them. The Wahabi types, who are driving the radical Islamist movement worldwide, would indeed stop your freedom of speech. The only reason they don't, is because they can't. And you would be right if you felt like they couldn't possibly succeed in this, but it is thanks to a large group of people (millions) that you apparently have no difficultly in judging.
If you respond to any real extent to this, which I know is unlikely, try to remember that the entire Clinton administration and most of the world's intelligence agencys concluded that Saddam had WMDs, while Bush was still a mere Texas Governor. Clinton et al went a step further and said he should be taken out. No information ever arose that indicated that anything was different right up to March 2003. So try not to rehash the old chant about how the war was supposed to be about WMD's or, even more humorous - oil. The war was, and is, about "terrorism" - the radical Islamic movement that feels that they can lie to and kill anyone who does not adhere to their version of Islam, and whoever is standing next to them.
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