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Monday, February 21, 2005

Three Cheers for the Aussies

The Australians refused to become last minute signatories of the Kyoto Protocol. Between this and Howard's support of Operation Iraqi Freedom, Australia maintains its place as one of our closest strategic allies -- a fine cry from the leftist Aussie governments of the Cold War, when the PM used to tell American convoys to get lost.


Posted by Ben Johnson @ 1:55:00 AM Eastern Time  
 

9 Comments:

Anonymous said...

I find it amusing that Greenpeace have hailed Russia's acceptance of the Kyoto Accords as a step forward. Russia merely has to pollute less than in 1990. This isn't exactly difficult considering how dirty industry was under communism. The Russians, will probably do quite well financially out of this

Mon Feb 21, 06:44:16 AM  
Redbeard said...

A great many underdeveloped countries were counting on Kyoto to provide an economic windfall, but that plan assumed that they could con the U.S. and other productive countries into taking part.

The left is transparently disingenuous in promoting this mess as an environmental program, when in fact it is simply a tool for wealth redistribution.

Gee, imagine that. A big international program, and it's a fraud. Say it ain't so.

Mon Feb 21, 09:17:23 AM  
canetoad said...

Please don't cheer for this particular Aussie (or 10 millions others), now that our leader has lumped us in with the lunatic right of American politics. You know what I find amusing? The stuff written on this site just reinforces the weird ability of all luntaics either left or right to sprout lies and believe it at the same time. Astonishes me. sad really. votehowardout.com

Mon Feb 21, 11:18:35 PM  
t0m said...

I agree, this site is a joke. I found a link to it on wonkette. Don't listen to the henny-penny sky-is-falling crowd. They would have you believe that asking industry to clean up after itself will lead to economic armaggeddon. These are the same folks who cheer $8 trillion in debt, mostly owned by foreigners, and with each deficit they control more of our economic destiny. They want you to believe that it will be Greenpeace, not the Central Bank of China, that pulls us down.

What Horowitz really wants is a Chinese-style cultural revolution, where liberals are purged. It starts with the conspiracy sites like this one, and hate radio. Sooner or later, probably after Bush's suicidal economic policies bring about a real economic downturn, which will be blamed on liberals, and the rampaging mobs will be set loose. This is not without historic precedent. I have a friend whose family fled China. She feels the same way about the wing-nuts.

Wed Feb 23, 07:59:01 PM  
Nahanni said...

The only thing that Wonkette excels at is handing out BJ's in the Senate Minority cloakroom.

Thu Feb 24, 02:30:10 AM  
Redbeard said...

I find this dichotomy quite interesting, in that it explains much about the thinking process on the left:

First we have this cautionary warning, full of sneering and hyperbole: "Don't listen to the henny-penny sky-is-falling crowd. They would have you believe that asking industry to clean up after itself will lead to economic armaggeddon. These are the same folks who cheer $8 trillion in debt, mostly owned by foreigners, and with each deficit they control more of our economic destiny. They want you to believe that it will be Greenpeace, not the Central Bank of China, that pulls us down."

Followed immediately by this, well, frankly, henny-penny sky-is-falling warning: "What Horowitz really wants is a Chinese-style cultural revolution, where liberals are purged. It starts with the conspiracy sites like this one, and hate radio. Sooner or later, probably after Bush's suicidal economic policies bring about a real economic downturn, which will be blamed on liberals, and the rampaging mobs will be set loose."

Note that there is no discussion of the actual Kyoto issue above, nor of the subject of the original post at the head of this thread, but simply more wild-eyed hyperbole.

And so it goes. Ah well, at least we have the comfort of knowing that some things never change.

Thu Feb 24, 08:26:56 AM  
t0m said...

Perhaps I should differentiate for you, my impression of what Horowitz wants, vis-a-vis a prediction of what will actually happen.

And no, no discussion of Kyoto. The place to discuss that is in peer-reviewed scientific journals. If you want a real discussion, go to nature.com or other publications within the scientific process.

And there, the subject of global warming has been thoroughly vetted.

Thu Feb 24, 08:29:47 PM  
t0m said...

Because if you think about it, your only argument against Kyoto-type treaties (and yes, Kyoto is a weak start, but a start nonetheless) boils down to this:

Developing new technology will hurt the economy.

Thu Feb 24, 08:38:47 PM  
Tallahassee Common Sense said...

I read journals and science magazines such as "Science News." Global warming is far from an "established" fact, let alone that increased carbon dioxide emissions is causing it. When you go to a 10,000-20,000 year timescale, what has been observed in the last 50 years isn't even statistically significant above background noise, and there were periods when it was much, much warmer than now with much higher sea levels.

Kyoto was/is a scam based on bad, incomplete, and even junk science. Hooray for the Aussies. They've shown "common sense" just as we here in the U.S. have, despite hysterical proclamations to the contrary.

Science and technology applied to a problem that isn't accomplishes nothing except to provide another buttress for the law of unintended consequences.

Mon Apr 11, 06:06:26 PM  

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